Keith Snyder

Keith Snyder

AOL Chat

This is the record of a "meet the author" conference on America On Line on May 27, 1996. Keith is logged on as username: Note On.


Les Guy 1: Is this the screenwriting workshop?

Giorge: Screenwriting's on Fridays, Les.

Les Guy 1: Fridays, mondays, now I'm all mixed up.

Note On: Mondays is complete paragraphs, Les.:)

Giorge: Note, you go have your saucer of cream!

Note On: If you thought that was catty, Giorge...:)

GNV1: So how is this mystery chat to start?

DorieDee: Is that a mystery?

RAINDEAD: I was kicked off but Im back. Our guest tonight is Keith Snyder whose book Show Control was just released.

RAINDEAD: I think Keith is going to be a little late

GNV1: Well where is Keith Snyder?

Note On: Actually, I was a little early.:)

Kaanii: well Hiya, Keith:)

RAINDEAD: Hi Keith..\

FairEllen2: Hi Keith

Note On: Hi, all.

RAINDEAD: Has anyone had the chance to visit Keith's web site?

Kaanii: Where is it?

RAINDEAD: Keith can you give us the address?

Note On: Sure! It's http://www.hooked.net/mammoth/showcontrol.html ... shall we wait for the stampede to end?

DorieDee: I must be crazy. People are talking to Keith but he never shows

Note On: I'm right here, DorieDee.

FairEllen2: Dorie, he's Note On

Note On: That doesn't exclude the possibility that you're crazy, of course.:)

DorieDee: I'm a little slow here. Thanks.

CLewis9507: People kept saying Anne Rice was in here from the Cafe....

Kaanii: Lewis.... LOL well Keith is a LOT cuter than old Annie

Note On: Oh, blush.:)

Giorge: Why do you have a web site, Keith?

Note On: Because it's a cheap shotgun approach and I know how to do it already. Zero overhead publicity.

CLewis9507: Who is Keith?

RAINDEAD: Leoth is the author or SHOW CONTROL a new mystery just released.

Kaanii: leoth?

RAINDEAD: Keith

FairEllen2: leoth is Keith also..LOL

Note On: As long as you don't call me late for dinner...

Giorge: Who published SHOW CONTROL and do you have an agent?

Note On: Giorge: SHOW CONTROL was published by Write Way, a hardcover press in Colorado. I do not have an agent.

CLewis9507: How long did it take Keith?

Note On: The book took three years to write, a year to sell, and two years to see published.

CLewis9507: What did you do in the meantime?

Note On: In the meantime, I've been working on music composition and multimedia projects, as well as on the sequel, "Coffin's Got the Dead Guy on the Inside."

DorieDee: Is it a P.I. or part of a series?GA

Note On: It's an amateur sleuth kind of thing. I intend it to be a series, but I have yet to see if a publisher concurs.:)

Kaanii::)

GNV1: why did it take 2 yrs to pub?

Note On: Because small presses don't put out very many books, and there were already several before me. My original contract specified 3 years, but I requested that it be shortened because the online aspect of the book is timely.

Kakti: Keith, did you do each chapter in chronological order as you wrote..or skip around?

Note On: I wrote entirely linearly... character is the primary motivator for action in my books, so plot outlines are only so helpful...

Kakti: Thank you!

RAINDEAD: and who says things are linear!

Kaanii: Are you in colorado? is that why you chose WRITE WAY to publish you?

Note On: I chose Write Way because they offered me a contract. :)

Kakti: LOL

Kaanii: how did they find you?

Note On: I met them in an unusual way...

Kaanii: oh? do tell:)

Note On: The American Booksellers Association has its convention yearly...

Note On: and a few years ago, it was in L.A., where I live. I asked all the writers and editors I knew if it was a good place for an author to sell a book...

Note On: They said I'd be an idiot to go there with that intention...

Note On: so, of course, I went...

Kakti: LOL

Giorge: Great story!!

Note On: I got in by volunteering at a booth, and Write Way was just down the aisle...

RAINDEAD: I visited the web site and dl chapter 20 of SHOW CONTROL...I want to read it from p 1!

Note On: Thanks, Phyllis!

CLewis9507: Did you write many queries....or attend workshops?

Note On: I attended no workshops and wrote no queries. I wrote a book I wanted to write and then annoyed people.

RAINDEAD: Keith, I know that writing has not always been your primary focus, can you tell us a little about yourself?

Note On: I am first and foremost a composer. I think I started writing to procrastinate from that.

GNV1: could you give a brief discription of your novel?

Note On: In a nutshell: Computer musician finds himself looking into the onstage death of a performance artist.

Note On: Emphasis on character/dialogue.

EQ451: Is your book getting national distribution by the publisher?

Note On: Yes, it is. Ingram, Baker & Taylor, and all the usual suspects. We're also trying to market through music stores, which is a new thing to try.

GNV1: tell us about your protagonist.

Note On: Jason Keltner: recently separated, soon to be divorced, mid-twenties wiseass. Basically, he's me without a filter. He's got a great, inherent sense of honor, and needs a distraction from his divorce, so looking into a murder seems like a good idea to him, even though his friends all think he's nuts.

RAINDEAD: I think marketing through music stores is a terrific idea...whose was it?

Note On: Mine.:)

RAINDEAD: ! :)

Giorge: How many copies in your 1st printing?/

Note On: 1500 in the first printing.

Giorge: Thanks - music stores is a great idea.

Note On: Thank you. We'll see whether music store customers agree.

EQ451: Does Write Way specialize in mysteries?

Note On: Yes -- mysteries and adventures...

Note On: If I may pontificate for a moment...

Note On: I think marketing is very important for authors. Not while you're writing -- during that time, you should not think about it --...

Note On: but I am determined to be published again, and the only way to ensure that is to make sales...

Note On: we're doing all kinds of weird things to promote SHOW CONTROL...

RAINDEAD: tell us, Keith

Note On: for instance, several of the L.A. book signings will have readings accompanied by the electronic/acoustic music group I perform with, The Cosmic Debris...

Note On: we're dramatizing several chapters instead of doing straight readings...

Note On: and we'll be sure to take pictures and try to get press coverage, which is good both for the book and for the band...

Note On: we're trying to get coverage in computer magazines, music magazines... anything even tangentially related...

Note On: my point being: if it's your book, you should be interesetd in marketing it. Soapbox descended.

CMKMax: Is Show Control the first fiction you've written for publication?

Note On: It's the first novel, CMKMax, but I've had a couple of short fiction pieces published.

CMKMax: Thanks. By the way, I like your marketing ideas.

Note On: Thanks.

EQ451: Who arranged the signings? Is publisher paying for it? Where did yur short stories appear?

Note On: The publisher arranges signings, though I have fed them leads and concepts...

Note On: I'm not sure about the second part of your question; paying for what?

EQ451: Transportation, presentation, etc.

Note On: Ah. Well, there's not much of a presentation: me, a table, and some books. The books are already stocked at the store, the store supplies the table, and mileage is determined on a case-by-case basis...

Note On: The short stories appeared in Writers Workshop Review.

GNV1: Are you doing all of the promotion or is the publisher doing some also? Who's paying & how..

Note On: The publisher and I are both doing a great deal of promotion work. As for the money aspect... I don't feel comfortable getting detailed, since it is a two-party contract. Suffice it to say that I find them reasonable.

Giorge: What was the general reaction of editors at ABA to your pitch?/

Note On: "Sounds interesting -- send us a manuscript."

Giorge: Did you? Besides WW, that is?

Note On: I had eleven requests for mss, both from majors and small presses.I sent them all out, got nine very nice personal rejections...

Note On: one form rejection...

Note On: and a contract offer.

EQ451: Are you paying any part of the publishing costs??

Note On: No, it's not a vanity press...

Betsylynne: Did you do research for the crime / detective scenes? Where?

Note On: since my protagonist is an amateur, I did less research than someone writing a procedural. I did more research (if you can call it that) by reading a lot of good detective fiction.

RAINDEAD: Was that a deliberate choice, Keith?

Note On: Yes, but not because of the amount of research involved. I simply didn't want to write a PI.

CMKMax: Were your short fiction pieces mysteries, & do you think they helped you get Show Control published?

Note On: No, the short pieces were not mysteries, and I don't believe they helped me in the slightest.

GNV1: did you find it easy to pitch your book to strangers?

Note On: GNV: strangers? Yes. Editors-in-chief? No.

Betsylynne: I wanted to know if you sent out simultaneous submissions to pubs.

Note On: Yes, I did.

Betsylynne: Thanks

GNV1: do you have physical action ie fight scenes

Note On: Yes, I do. Car chases, etc.

GNV1: how do you write it?

Note On: By making sure I can envision it in detail and then being extremely accurate.

THopeB: Keith, in your reading research (what wonderful research to do....!), what authors/books did you find especially well-written or memorable?

Note On: My writing heroes include Robert B. Parker (who I'll meet at my June 8 L.A. signing)...

Note On: PG Wodehouse...

Note On: Hemingway...

Taenyth: LOL...:)

Note On: Oh, boy, I dunno... many others, too numerous to mention here.:)

Taenyth: Ok, thank you..:)

CMKMax: Are you working with an agent? Interested in finding one?

Note On: I am not working with an agent because they snubbed me soundly at the ABA show and I'm holding a grudge. I probably will work with one on the sequel, or if anything major happens with SHOW CONTROL, but at the moment, I could use a publicity agent much more than a literary one.

CMKMax: Sounds like you're doing fine on your own!

Note On: THanks. I like to think so.:)

RAINDEAD: Keith, here's to success and an agent!

Note On: Thanks, Phyllis.

Taenyth: Keith, is this your first book?

Note On: Yes, it is. First written, as well as first sold.

Taenyth: What part of the novel did you find the most difficult?

Note On: That's easy...

Note On: the bad guy got away with it, completely, 100%. Now what? That was the hardest thing to get past.

Taenyth: I see...:) well, get him in the sequel...

Note On: I got him in this book, Taenyth -- that was the hard part to write.:)

THopeB: Keith, did you have a regular (or semi-regular) writing schedule to make it through your book? I've got to say that your typing is very fast, by the way!

Note On: THopeB -- ... I wish I could say I have a writing schedule, but I'm in that *other* camp:writers with no discipline and a lot of drive. I think you have to have one or the other, and I hate schedules...

Note On: and the best thing my parents did for me during high school was make me take typing.

Taenyth: How did you get a publisher to look at your manuscript without an agent?

Note On: None of them had a problem with that, Taenyth.

Note On: BUT...

Note On: don't forget that I had face-to-face meetings with editors, in an out-of-the-ordinary setting...

Taenyth: Ah....I see....OK.

Note On: so all the usual rules didn't necessarily apply. If I'd been sending query letters out of the blue, an agent probably would have been a very good idea. However, I generally do things unconventionally, so it all worked out.

Taenyth: Yes....I'm finding agents difficult to deal with myself

Note On: They're the only people at the show who wouldn't even return a smile.

Taenyth: I understand completely!

RAINDEAD: I think you have a marvelous way with description.

Note On: Thanks! I take a lot of care in language. I think it's amazing how often that's not done.

THopeB: [Interesting point about the agents being the non-smilers!]

Taenyth: Keith, do you write screenplays also?

Note On: Taenyth -- I've been working on a radio drama, as well as a short film. I don't intend to be a screenwriter per se, but I have produced some short films and now want to start producing my own, in addition to the ones I work on with other people.

RAINDEAD: You're a multiple threat.

Taenyth: I had a hunch that would be your answer.

Note On: Gee, you'd think with all this "project name-dropping," I'd have more money. :)

RAINDEAD: We have five minutes left people are there any more uestions?

Taenyth: I'm also a novelist/screenwriter...

Giorge: I wonder how we writers could coalesce to shut agents out.

Taenyth: Hollywood makes that very tough for writers.

Giorge: You're a person after my own heart, Keith!

RAINDEAD: Keith, why radio drama?

Note On: Because I know I can produce it myself without seeing anyone else option and then ruin it. I care about the final product.

RAINDEAD: I see. I thought you might have a particular fondness for the medium

Note On: I do love sound, Phyllis -- the radio show is a Hitchhiker's Guide kind of thing.

RAINDEAD: ! {: )

Giorge: It's going to take all of us.

Note On: Giorge -- wish I could offer some wisdom, but I basically just get stubborn and push through. ...

Note On: I've seen what you're suggesting done with musicians, and it's like herding cats. Writers would be just as bad.:)

Giorge: I'm tired of rolling over for folks who know less than I do!

RAINDEAD: herding cats.....great picture

RAINDEAD: Keith, I think you;'ve given all of us plenty to think about

Giorge: I'm glad Keith shared w/ us tonight - thanx.

RAINDEAD: Thank you for spening the time and being so thorough in your answers.

Taenyth: Best wishes....Keith.

CMKMax: Thank, Keith. Enjoyed the chat.

Note On: Thank you for having me! I'm always an email away if anyone wants to talk further...

RAINDEAD: You've been a great guest tonight! thanks

Note On: It was my pleasure, and I hope to chat with you all again.

RAINDEAD: Good night Keith, thanks again, and good night to all!

Note On: Night, all. I'll be online for a while if anyone cares to pester me.

BfloGal: Hi folks! Anyone here for Romance Readers Group chat?